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The Art of Manliness

What the World of Psychology Gets Wrong About Men

The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.714.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Several years ago, the American Psychological Association issued a set of guidelines for psychologists working with boys and men. Guideline #1 says: "Psychologists strive to recognize that masculinities are constructed based on social, cultural, and contextual norms." Guideline #3 says: "Psychologists understand the impact of power, privilege, and sexism on the development of boys and men and on their relationships with others." My guest says that these guidelines miss the mark, and are just one indicator of the way in which the world of psychology misunderstands, and consequently underserves, men. Dr. John Barry is a psychologist, the co-founder of the Male Psychology Section of the British Psychological Society and the Centre for Male Psychology, as well as the co-author of the Perspectives in Male Psychology textbook. Today on the show, John unpacks the issues with thinking that masculinity is purely a social construct and that men's problems grow out of their power and privilege, and how these issues prevent men from getting the help they need. In the second half of our conversation, we discuss the surprising origin of the idea of toxic masculinity, what really defines masculinity, and what effect internalizing a negative or positive view of masculinity has on men. We end our conversation with what works for men's mental health and well-being if you don't want to go to therapy, and what you should look for in a therapist if you do.

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0:00.0

We're at McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

0:11.5

Several years ago, the American Psychological Association issued a set of guidelines for

0:15.7

psychologists working with boys and men.

0:18.1

Guideline number one says, psychologists strive to recognize that masculinities are constructed

0:23.1

based on social, cultural, and contextual norms.

0:26.5

Number three says, psychologists understand the impact of power, privilege, and sexism

0:31.3

on the development of boys and men, and on the relationships with others.

0:35.0

My guess says that these guidelines miss the mark, and are just one indicator of the

0:38.2

way in which the world of psychology misunderstands and consequently underserves men.

0:42.9

Dr. John Berry is a psychologist, the co-founder of the male psychology section of the British

0:46.8

Psychological Society, and the co-author of the perspectives and male psychology textbook.

0:51.0

Today on the show, John impacts the issues with thinking that masculinity is purely a social

0:55.3

construct, and that men's problems grow out of their power and privilege, and how these

0:59.4

issues prevent men from getting the help they need.

1:01.8

In the second half of our conversation, we discussed the surprising origin of the idea

1:05.1

of toxic masculinity, what really defines masculinity, and what effect internalizing a negative

1:10.3

or positive view of masculinity has on men.

1:13.0

We enter conversation with what works for men's mental health and wellbeing if you don't

1:16.4

want or need to go to therapy, and what you should look for in a therapist if you do.

1:20.5

The show is over, check out our show notes at aam.is slash male psych.

1:27.5

All right, John Berry.

1:38.4

Welcome to the show.

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