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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

What the World Cup means at a time of global conflict

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

As top athletes from around the world gather for the World Cup, many are representing nations embroiled in military conflict.

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0:00.0

From WNYC, I'm Brian Lair.

0:07.5

This is my daily politics podcast.

0:10.2

It's Thursday, June 11th.

0:14.7

Yeah, it's the opening day of the 2026 World Cup, in addition to everything else going on in basketball and in life.

0:22.5

Later today, Mexico and South Africa will kick off at the Azteca in Mexico City.

0:28.7

The tournament will eventually sprawl across 16 cities in Mexico, the United States, and Canada.

0:34.9

Will you be watching?

0:36.2

You can catch the action in a living room or bar

0:39.5

literally all over the world, which is exactly the point that Franklin Ford made 22 years ago

0:46.3

when he wrote how soccer explains the world, an unlikely theory of globalization. Though soccer

0:53.8

wasn't as big in the United States at that point,

0:56.0

force argument was that it was actually the most advanced expression of globalization

1:00.7

on earth, with all the money flowing through it, the tribalism inside it,

1:06.4

and the politics complicating it.

1:08.4

That was 2004.

1:10.1

Now it's 2026, and some of the players representing

1:13.1

their countries at this World Cup play for teams like Saudi-owned Newcastle United,

1:20.0

or United Arab Emirates-owned Manchester City. Really? Did you know that? Oh, and of course Iran, which the U.S. is

1:28.7

currently at war with. How Soccer explains the world has a new edition out with a new preface,

1:34.1

and there has perhaps never been a better moment to revisit it. Franklin Ford is a staff writer

1:38.8

at the Atlantic, an author of several books, including World Without Mind and The Last Politician inside Joe Biden's

1:47.5

White House. He's also written a recent piece in the Atlantic called The Quintessential Trumpian

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