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The Daily

What the West Got Wrong About China, Part 1

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2018

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

From the very beginning, the West was certain that China would not pull off its economic experiment. That certainty came from a set of assumptions about how societies function and political freedoms emerge. But those assumptions were wrong — and China became stronger than ever. Guest: Philip P. Pan, the Asia editor for The New York Times, spoke with us from Beijing. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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In the fall of 1984, a group of economic students and economists from across China gathered

0:41.4

for a conference in a mountain retreat called Morgan Shan outside of Shanghai.

0:46.5

They met for seven days, seven nights, and they were there to really answer one question.

0:52.0

How could China catch up to the West?

0:53.6

The overwhelming impression of China today remains that of backwardness.

0:57.5

Horse and human power still do the chores machines would do better.

1:01.6

China was basically in shams.

1:04.1

Mao Zedong had died only a few years earlier, and he had devastated the country with his

1:09.9

political campaigns.

1:13.4

More than a million people have been killed or persecuted, and still about three quarters

1:19.7

of the population was living in extreme poverty.

1:22.6

The government decided what every factory made, how much everything cost.

1:27.0

The economy wasn't really functioning.

1:29.8

Well, the average worker the most sought-after consumer items are a major investment.

1:34.5

A good locally made television at $300 is nearly half a year salary.

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