Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine.

It is my privilege today to be joined by the multi-award-winning journalist Jonathan M. Katz.

He is one of the world's leading specialists in U.S. foreign policy and in Haiti in particular, having

served as the Associated Press Bureau Chief in Porto-Prince from 2007 to 2011, including

during the Haitian earthquake in the aftermath of that earthquake, he exposed a major story

that UN peacekeepers had been responsible for the deadly cholera

epidemic there that led to at least 6,000 deaths. He has been published in the New York Times,

The New Republic, Foreign Policy, the Guardian, New Yorker Politico. He is also the author of the excellent books,

The Big Truck That Went By, How the World Came to Save Haiti and Left Behind a Disaster,

and Gangsters of Capitalism, Smedley Butler, the Marines,

and the Making and Breaking of America's Empire.

You can find his work at the racket.news.

You can also follow him on blue sky at Katz on Earth.

Jonathan M. Katz.

Welcome to Carter Fares.

Thanks for having me.

Well, you were the number one person I wanted to talk to,

having seen the recent eruption of horrendous fake news about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio.

It is now reported that thanks to Donald Trump and his running mate, J.D. Vance,

spreading the false story that Haitian immigrants are eating people's pets.

Donald Trump said this at the debate.

They're eating the pets.

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