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Hello, welcome welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Hill. I'm joined today by Katie

with the Spectators political editor and John McToner, former political secretary

to Tony Blair. Now Katie, it's not been a great

24 hours for the government, two big stories dominating, one of which is

about Sue Gray's pay which broke by the BBC yesterday and the other of course is

the revelation that the

Prime Minister since 2019 has been the MP who takes by far and away the most

freebies free gifts things like going to Arsenal games and seeing free

tickets there which these stories is worse the government and where do you want to start?

Well I think they're bad for the government in different ways so I think we can have a bit of misery all round.

The Sioux Gray story I think it's less about what do voters at home think about the chief of staff earning 3,000 pounds more than the Prime Minister.

I've always thought happy to be proven wrong if listeners disagree that you know even efforts to cut down and spads and so forth

It's just not an issue that massively infuses the country or animates it, but I think why that story matters is because it fits into a pattern, which is really

even a week of Kirsdama entering Downing Street, maybe less than a week.

There's been a steady stream of stories

about Sue Gray, about things that she wants.

There was initial one about Kaysman Park

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