Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men the award season podcast from Vanity Fair and

Panoply. I'm Katie Rich, the deputy editor of Vanity Fair.

And I'm here with our digital director Mike Hogan.

Hey Katie.

Our film critic Richard Lawson.

Hello.

Our senior writer Joanna Robinson.

Hey Katie.

And joining us in studio we we have New York magazine columnist and author Mark Harris.

Hey.

Mark, we brought you in because we wanted to have you on the show for a long time, but it's an auspicious

morning.

The SAG Award nominations have just come out as we're

recording the Golden Globe nominations came out two days ago there's way more awards news

to handle than pretty much any of us can so we need to do his backup to help us process. I mean Mark is probably the most

arroodite like Oscar prognosticator that exists so like we're that's why we have

him on because we you know we're dummies compared to him so and in fact I

probably won't say anything

for the whole show I'm just gonna we're just gonna silently this is way too much

pressure. So Mark I figure a good place to start might be something that you were

tweeting about before we started recording in the wake of the sag nomination. a good place to start might be something that you were tweeting

in the wake of the SAG nominations because you know there were surprises in them

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