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The Art of Manliness

What the Labors of Hercules Can Teach You About Life and Masculinity

The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.714.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

You're probably familiar with the mythological tale of Hercules (or "Heracles" as the hero was originally called) from books, comics, and movies. But while Hercules is often rendered as a kind of one-dimensional superhero in popular culture, my guest today argues that he's actually quite a complex character, and that the story of how he completed twelve epic labors has a lot to teach us about endurance, revenge, mental illness, violence, punishment, trauma, bereavement, friendship, love, and masculinity. His name is Laurence Alison, and he's a forensic psychologist and an expert in interrogation, who's created a written and oral retelling of the classic myth. At the start of the show, Laurence shares how he's been using the story of the twelve labors of Hercules to facilitate reflection and discussion amongst military personnel and first responders, and how the labors can provide life insights for everyone. We then dig into the details of many of the labors of Hercules, from slaying a lion to cleaning out stables, and discuss what they can teach us about grappling with life's highs and lows, and what it means to be a man. Resources Related to the Podcast Our last podcast with Laurence about what he's learned from his work in interrogation about building rapport AoM Podcast #660: The Theater of War With Bryan Doerries AoM Series on Greek Mythology AoM Manvotional: The Choice of Hercules Find Laurence Alison's Hercules Retellings The Heracles Project on the Grand Truth website Direct access to the oral retelling of the labors of Hercules (this is an audio experience with music, sound effects, illustrations, and guided interpretative diary exercises) Print copies of Laurence's written, illustrated retelling of the labors, as well as a novella Laurence wrote on the entire life of Hercules, are available to purchase by contacting Andrew Richmond. You can get a feel for the former book here.

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0:00.0

Let's go.

0:07.4

Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

0:10.4

Now you're probably familiar with the mythological tale of Hercules or Heracles as the hero

0:14.3

was originally called from books, comics, and movies.

0:16.7

But while Hercules is often rendered as a kind of one-dimensional superhero in popular

0:20.2

culture, my guests they are used to these actually quite a complex character.

0:23.2

And the story of how he completed 12 epic labors has a lot to teach us about endurance,

0:27.8

binge, mental illness, violence, punishment, trauma, bereavement, friendship, love, and masculinity.

0:34.9

His name is Lawrence Allison and he's a forensic psychologist and an expert in interrogation

0:38.6

who's created a written and oral retelling of the classic myth.

0:41.4

At the start of the show, Lawrence shares how he's been using the story of the 12 labors

0:44.4

of Hercules to facilitate reflection and discussion amongst military personnel and first responders

0:49.1

and how the labors provide life insights for everyone.

0:51.6

We then dig into the details of many of the labors of Hercules from slaying a line to

0:55.1

cleaning out stables and discuss what they can teach us about growling with life's

0:58.5

highs and lows and what it means to be a man.

1:00.9

After the show is over, check out our show notes at a-wim.is slash Hercules.

1:07.2

Alright, Lawrence Allison, welcome back to the show.

1:18.6

Thank you so much for having me again, Brett.

1:20.0

Lovely to be in.

1:21.0

So you had you and your wife on the show a year ago to talk about how to build rapport.

1:25.0

And you two have unique perspective on this because you are experts in interrogating criminals

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