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Hello everybody drop your iPhone this is the program that's right you know over 2,000 years

ago Socrates was worried about the effects of technology. He worried about a new invention, books, and that they were creating, quote unquote, forgetfulness in the soul. He worried that instead of remembering things for themselves

people were becoming reliant on books and now in 2020 people are similarly they

worried about new technology but instead of books now it's social media and phones and the ways they change our

brains. This technology provides us with an incredible amount of information but

does the sheer volume of information one after another, make us more superficial as

thinkers? Our first gift, Nicholas Carr, wrote a book about this called The Shallows,

what the Internet is doing to our brains. This book was published in 2010, so today Nicholas Carr is going to

update us on how technology in 2020 continues to change our brains. In the second half of

the program we're going to be joined by two guests,

New York Times writer Justin Gillis,

and the executive directors at Energy Policy Institute David Palmarants.

Mr Gillis just wrote an opinion piece about the billion dollar bailout of two nuclear plants and several

coal plants in Ohio.

The Energy and Policy Institute is a watchdog organization working to expose attacks on renewable

energy and counter misinformation by fossil fuel and utility interests.

Mr. Gillis' op-ed tells the story of how Ohio State Assembly Speaker Larry Householder

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