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The Two Matts

What the hell is wrong with Suella Braverman?

The Two Matts

The New World

News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.4523 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this week's episode, Matt Withers and Eleanor Longman-Rood remember the years preceding the Truss era before discussing the new Netflix series The Empress that's being touted as Germany's answer to The Crown and a new exhibit at London's Imperial War Museum. Then, The New European's Clár Ní Chonghaile joins the podcast to answer the question of what on earth is wrong with Suella Braverman and the strange brand of cruelty she brings to the government. Plus, Thérèse Coffey and Jacob Rees-Mogg join the Hall of Shame this week. Enjoyed this episode? Let us know by tweeting @TheNewEuropean.


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0:00.0

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0:05.2

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1:01.4

Good morning, good afternoon or good evening and welcome back to the new European podcast. My name is Matt Wivers. It's the afternoon of October the 13th and Liz Truss is still Prime Minister.

1:11.7

Depending on when you're listening, that might not be the case. With me today is my new European

1:16.7

colleague and an alongman rude. When I was Ellie's age, there had been three prime ministers

1:21.6

during my entire lifetime. Ellie, you may soon be on to your seventh. How does that make you feel?

1:27.8

Weirdly old, Matt. I'd like to say that it's, you know, it's not my fault. We're not onto the seventh nearly potentially because of because of me.

1:36.4

But no, there's a running joke among friends my age, you know, that because of COVID, we're not counting the last two years in that classic rhetoric of, you know, the pandemic stolen, stolen our 20s and the fun times we could be having.

1:48.0

Sadly, you can't quite stretch that across to the political timeframe.

1:53.0

It is when you say it like that, though, it genuinely is a bit weird

1:56.0

because I haven't sort of seen a prime minister serve their full term, so to speak.

2:00.0

I think I was 11 or 12 when we had the

2:02.2

coalition government. So it is quite strange. I guess I could now out you, Matt, and ask which

2:07.6

were the three PMs that you, that you had by the time you were my age? So I was born just a couple of

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