What the Hell Is Going On: WTH Are We Letting China Steal All Our Secrets? David Shedd Explains.

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🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Over the last decade, China has carried out the largest illicit transfer of capital, innovation, data, and technology in human history. One of the most overlooked elements of this heist is the role of industrial espionage and the theft of corporate secrets. The government-backed intelligence apparatus designed to clone American technology has strengthened Chinese competition […]

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0:00.0	This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute.
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0:07.1	Thanks for listening. Here's our show.
0:08.7	What the hell is going on?
0:10.5	What's really going on?
0:12.0	We said, what the hell happened?
0:13.5	You don't have to know what the hell is on it.
0:15.6	They see what's going on.
0:16.7	I don't know what's going on.
0:18.0	What is going on?
0:20.0	We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on.
0:29.5	Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka.
0:31.3	And I'm Mark Tiesin.
0:32.5	Welcome to our podcast.
0:33.9	What the hell is going on?
0:36.2	Mark, people couldn't even begin to guess what we're talking about because there's so much what the hell going on. What is it this week? This is the what the helliest, what the hell we've possibly ever done. What the hell are we doing letting the Chinese engage in the largest theft of intellectual property, intelligence information, defense technology,
0:59.8	in the history of the world.
1:02.3	My former colleague at the White House, David Shed, has written a fantastic new book called
1:09.2	The Great Heist, China's epic campaign to steal America's
1:12.9	secrets, the story the CCP does not want revealed. He's written this with Andrew Badger,
1:18.3	who's a colleague of his from the Defense Intelligence Agency. David was in charge of the
1:22.8	Intelligence Bureau at the NSC when I was there, and we worked very closely together on declassifying a lot of
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