What the Hell Happened in Russia?
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 June 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
It was a heck of a weekend in Russia. There was an insurrection, kind of? A coup, sort of? A column of troops led by Wagner chieftain Yevgeny Prigozhin marched toward Moscow from Rostov-on-Don, threatened the destabilization of the Putin regime, and then in a sudden back flip, everybody stood down and the whole thing was resolved in a weird deal between the Russian president and the renegade mercenary.
To talk it all through, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Alina Polyakova, President of the Center for European Policy Analysis; cybersecurity guru and Lawfare Contributing Editor Matt Tait; and Dmitri Alperovitch of the Silverado Policy Accelerator. They talked about what happened over the weekend, what they know and what they think, what it might mean for Vladimir Putin's regime, and what it might mean for the war in Ukraine.
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| 0:29.0 | While I still think the chances of some sort of coup, |
| 0:37.0 | and this was not a coup, attempts certainly, |
| 0:41.0 | but chances of some sort of wall were very low prior to the events in the last few days, |
| 0:48.0 | I think they're a little higher now. |
| 0:51.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis, and this is the LawFair podcast June 27, 2023. |
| 0:57.0 | It was a heck of a weekend in Russia. |
| 1:01.0 | There was an insurrection, kind of a coup, sort of a column of troops, |
| 1:05.0 | led by Wagner, Chieftain, Yavgini Prigozhin, |
| 1:09.0 | marched toward Moscow from Rustov on Don, threatened the destabilization of the Putin regime, |
| 1:17.0 | and then in a sudden backflip, everybody stood down, |
| 1:23.0 | and the whole thing was resolved in a weird deal between the Russian president and the renegade mercenary. |
| 1:33.0 | It was like a thing out of the movies, and we figured we would get our Russia crew together to talk it all through, |
| 1:41.0 | joining me in the virtual jungle studio was Alina Poliakova, president of the Center for European Policy Analysis, |
| 1:51.0 | Cybersecurity, Guru, and LawFair, contributing editor Matt Tate, |
| 1:57.0 | and Demetri Alparovic of the Silverado Policy Accelerator. |
| 2:03.0 | It was a really interesting conversation, we covered a lot of ground. |
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