What The FBI Doesn’t Understand About Online Extremism

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🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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FBI Director Kash Patel spoke on Tuesday about a massive rise in the number of investigations into so-called NVEs, which stands for “nihilistic violent extremists.” He defined them as people who “engage in violent acts motivated by a deep hatred of society.” Some experts would use that term to describe the suspect in the Charlie Kirk shooting. Utah prosecutors said Tuesday that the suspect allegedly wrote video game references and online jokes on the bullet casings. We’ve chosen not to reference the name of the alleged shooter because we think it’s important not to give people who commit acts of violence the infamy they crave. To talk more about the online spaces where Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter spent most of his time and the rise of NVEs, we spoke to David Gilbert, who covers disinformation and online extremism for Wired Magazine. And in headlines: President Donald Trump is suing the New York Times again, Israel officially launches its ground offensive in Gaza City, and former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Susan Monarez testifies to a Senate panel about her ouster by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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0:00.0	It's Wednesday, September 17th. I'm Jane Koston, and this is what a day, the show saying RIP to Robert Redford, who passed away at the age of 89 on Tuesday.
0:12.2	The famed actor and director starred in films ranging from The Sting, my favorite, to all the president's men and sneakers.
0:18.4	And he even founded the Sundance Film Festival, all while
0:21.5	being incredibly hot. Thank you, Robert Redford, for showing us all that you can be a liberal
0:27.5	and also extremely attractive.
0:35.2	On today's show, President Donald Trump is doing what he does best.
0:39.0	Suing people.
0:40.4	And Israel officially launches its ground offensive in Gaza City.
0:43.8	But let's start with the rise of online radicalization.
0:48.0	On Tuesday, prosecutors in Utah announced seven charges against a suspect in the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk,
0:55.4	including aggravated murder.
0:59.6	I am filing a notice of intent to seek the death penalty.
1:06.8	I do not take this decision lightly, and it is a decision I have made independently.
1:12.2	We are not going to reference the name of the alleged shooter on the show, because I think it's important not to give people who commit acts of violence the infamy they crave.
1:16.4	And that's such an important factor to understand when talking about Kirk's murder, or acts
1:20.5	of violence that seem to be taking place more frequently in America than ever before.
1:24.9	Utah County Prosecutor stated that the alleged shooter expressed his desire to, quote,
1:29.2	take out Charlie Kirk because of Kirk's, quote, hatred.
1:32.4	But he also allegedly wrote video game references and online jokes on bullet casings that he
1:37.0	later told his roommate were, quote, mostly a big meme he wanted to hear referenced on Fox News.
1:42.7	That's sadly become a big theme in a number of recent acts of violence that have cost
1:46.6	lives and terrified communities.
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