What the Ex-OpenAI Safety Employees Are Worried About — With William Saunders and Lawrence Lessig

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Alex Kantrowitz

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🗓️ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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William Saunders is an ex-OpenAI Superallignment team member. Lawrence Lessig is a professor of Law and Leadership at Harvard Law School. The two come on to discuss what's troubling ex-OpenAI safety team members. We discuss whether the Saudners' former team saw something secret and damning inside OpenAI, or whether it was a general cultural issue. And then, we talk about the 'Right to Warn' a policy that would give AI insiders a right to share concerning developments with third parties without fear of reprisal. Tune in for a revealing look into the eye of a storm brewing in the AI community. ---- You can subscribe to Big Technology Premium for 25% off at https://bit.ly/bigtechnology Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. For weekly updates on the show, sign up for the pod newsletter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901970121829801984/ Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected]

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0:00.0	An ex-open AI super alignment team member joins us to share his concerns about the company's trajectory,
0:06.6	along with his lawyer, the Harvard Law professor Lawrence Lessig, who will shed light on the lack of protections for those who speak out.
0:14.3	All that and more is coming up right after this.
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1:00.6	We have a great show for you today.
1:02.1	We're finally going to speak with some of the people behind some of the concerns you've
1:05.7	been hearing about the trajectory of Open AI, especially with regard to the alignment work within the company,
1:12.4	or really the super alignment work. So we're joined today by a former member of that super
1:17.1	alignment team. William Saunders is here. Welcome, William. Thanks for having me on.
1:22.1	Thanks for being here. And it's my great pleasure to welcome Larry Lessig back to the show.
1:25.7	He's a professor of law and leadership at Harvard Law School.
1:29.0	And he's also representing William Pro Bono here as he goes. And I guess many of his colleagues as well as he goes and speaks out about these issues. Welcome, Larry.
1:38.2	Great to be back. Let's begin just talking a little bit about the vibe within Open AI.
1:43.4	William, you left a few months ago. Take us a little bit inside the vibe within Open AI. William, you left a few months ago.
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