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I don't think we are an apologetic culture anymore meaning I feel like there's way

less ROI on that yeah so I think in the 90s we were a highly legal forensic intellectual atmosphere.

Now I think that is not the currency of our culture.

Like we have not, because it's not just 20 years has gone by but it's 20 years with the

internet and the smartphone so like a hundred and or 200 years has gone by like we're we don't

realize 30 years now yeah but I'm just saying like there's a

revel they call it the internet and digital revolution for a reason.

Like it is we are living in a different world.

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