What the Dobbs Decision Means to Me

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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🗓️ 30 July 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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In the second of Amicus’ Summer Series of interviews that step out of the day to day of jurisprudence to look at justice and the Supreme Court through a wide-angle lens, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by actor and playwright Heidi Schreck. Schreck created and starred in the Pulitzer Prize and Tony Award - nominated “What the Constitution Means to Me” and is a fierce advocate for abortion rights. Together, they try to locate the spot at the intersection of politics, law, culture, media and art that might provide a space to adequately describe the impacts of the Dobbs decision. And that is where they find the galvanizing forces and creative feats of imagination that have served previous generations in the fight for equal rights, and that will fuel the fight to come.

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0:00.0	Hi and welcome to Amicus. This is Slates Podcast about the Law and the Courts and the
0:09.7	Supreme Court. And I'm Dahlia Lithwick and I cover those things for Slate. And this
0:13.6	is the second in our summer series of episodes that take a break from the kind of grinding
0:20.0	news cycle to root around in the bookstores and in the law of use. And we might even check
0:25.6	out plays and movies sometimes basically looking for ways to help us think about how to think
0:32.2	about the Courts and the law from outside of this hermetically sealed season. This week we're
0:38.8	doing something that's even a little bit different from that as a way to make sense of the
0:43.3	news in late June that the US Supreme Court had overturned Roe v Wade and Planned Parenthood
0:49.4	versus Casey in a case that you now know well called Dobbs versus Jackson. And we have spent a lot
0:56.1	of the year talking about reproductive freedom and reproductive justice as a legal matter, a statutory
1:01.5	matter, a constitutional matter. But I think as Americans try to integrate the idea that the right
1:07.5	to end a pregnancy is no longer protected in the Constitution and trying to integrate what that
1:14.1	even means for pregnant people, for women, for young girls, for physicians, for clinics.
1:21.2	Nothing that we have been able to say on this show seemed adequate to contain the enormity
1:27.2	of what has been lost because maybe law and media are just not sufficient to explain the enormity.
1:33.2	But I kind of think art is. And so this week we are turning to someone I just admire in respect
1:39.0	so much. Heidi Schrack is the playwright and actor who show what the Constitution means to me
1:45.5	is a Tony Award nominated Pulitzer Prize finalist. The play opened off Broadway in 2018. It moved
1:52.0	to Broadway in 2019 and became one of those shows that everybody was talking about nonstop.
1:59.4	Since its Broadway run, what the Constitution means to me has gone on a national tour and a streaming
2:05.6	version of the show with Heidi in it released on Amazon Prime. And also FYI, Heidi has given birth
2:13.6	to twins which no doubt somewhat affects the way she thinks about reproduction and your body.
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