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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

What ‘The Communist Manifesto’ Means Today with China Miéville

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It’s been 174 years since Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels wrote “The Communist Manifesto.” How is it still relevant today and what makes it such a vital guide to understanding present-day struggles? That’s the subject of China Mieville’s latest work, “A Spectre, Haunting: On the Communist Manifesto.” Miéville, a self-proclaimed Marxist and socialist, is a New York Times-bestselling author of fiction and non-fiction. His most recent book offers an analysis of what arguably remains the modern world’s most influential political document. He joins WITHpod to discuss criticisms of “The Manifesto,” the precipitating factors and peculiar nature of the text, how it still profoundly influences contemporary discourse and more.

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0:00.0

I constantly look around at the world and I think this cannot be as good as we can do.

0:06.8

This is the, this can't be as good as we can do and there are only so many times we can

0:10.8

say if you just let us tinker with it a little bit it'll get better.

0:14.5

And when that keeps failing and keeps failing and keeps failing we have to say to myself there

0:17.9

is something in this structure that is leading to this.

0:20.8

And when the structure itself says our driving energy is profit, not human need, it is not

0:27.6

rocket science to think this might be related to the problems of the world.

0:35.2

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me your host Chris Hayes.

0:44.7

You know I wrote a piece for The New York Times last week about Twitter and about Elon Musk's

0:49.2

purchase of Twitter and what I think I wrote about is the strangeness of having what feels like

0:54.3

it should be a public good which is the public sphere being the hands of a single private owner.

0:59.7

And the sort of inadequacy of that and the tensions of it and I saw some, there's some conservative

1:04.8

who was very angry about this and accused me of being a communist. But I thought it was just

1:08.9

sort of funny because it points to a larger aspect of conservative discourse which is constantly

1:15.2

accusing people of being communist and the communists are taking over the democratic parties become

1:19.6

communists. It's just a very strange charge to level in 2022. I mean it is true that there has been

1:27.0

renewed interest in socialism and democratic socialism and there's been renewed identification

1:33.7

of members of the sort of democratic party left as socialist, democratic socialists.

1:39.3

There's a number of them who are DSA members including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders,

1:44.4

calls themselves socialist. So there's that I get. But calling people communists in 2022 is a bit

1:50.7

bizarre. We don't have a cold war anymore. We don't really have communism I think as a competing

1:57.2

ideology. There is of course the largest state on earth, the Chinese government which is officially

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