What the Clipse "Album Of The Year" Has To Do With Black Women (and why we HAVE to talk about it)

Tea with Queen and J.

Society & Culture

4.9 • 768 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

Will an era of rap that's finally making room for its male elders make equitable space for women and MaGes too?

For this conversation we use the Clipse epic rollout as grown ass rappers (Pusha T, 48 & Malice, 53) launching their highly rated album and successful tour - to explore the experiences and P.O.V of Black women in and around the industry. I promise you it's not a reach.

Culture writer Starr Rocque & PR Strategist Uchechi Chinyere join me to discuss all things Clipse, hip-hop, Black women & femmes.

You don’t have to know shxt about the Clipse or their latest album Let God Sort Em’ Out to enjoy this conversation, but also please email and let me know how you managed to avoid knowing shxt about the Clipse during this very Clipse 2025.

I think it's important to note that Tyler the Creator who shows up in one of the best features of the album is queer. We mention his feature, but not his queerness, which IS relevant in THIS conversation.

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Starr Rocque @starr_rocque

Uchechi Chinyere @wordsbyuchechi

Women rapper thread: https://www.threads.com/@janiciaf/post/DMDQXE7gI6j?xmt=AQF0WN0h7xzS2qlRGsOYMykXzUyAAPgE41MUyQlMM43TAQ

00:00 intro

1:52 Hyperbolic Bronx rappers

3:47 Growing up with The Clipse

8:19 Sometimes you just want n****s to rap

11:54 "Drake" "was" "a" "backpacker"

13:10 The Black Women problem

17:58 Women rappers & The Clipse

23:49 Doechii won't stop talking about her vxgina

24:42 Rapsody the obvious or problematic choice

28:20 Give us nothing Nas!

29:25 Ageism

40:09 André 3000

44:10 Misogyny in hip hop is systemic AND personal

48:46 Colorism

58:47 Christianity

1:09:51 Journalism

1:17:15 When women and girls love hip hop

1:35:46 Gatekeeping Black women out, ushering white people in

1:44:04 Asking for what we deserve

1:49:17 Attending Clipse NPR Tiny Desk

1:52:50 Honesty in hip hop and IRL

1:57:17 Big sibling energy

2:03:59 What happened with The Grapevine

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0:00.0	it's the lack of consideration.
0:01.7	That's what makes me a reluctant hip-hop enthusiast because they didn't even think about it.
0:06.9	That's the thing.
0:07.6	Like, they're not thinking about bringing women into the room.
0:10.2	It's just not a thought.
0:11.4	So, like, whenever we had these conversations, he'd be like, oh, y'all want to bring gender into it.
0:15.2	And it's like, gender is always a part of this.
0:19.8	Hey, y'all.
0:24.2	Welcome to Tea with Queen and Jay, your favorite womanist race nerd podcast.
0:28.4	My name is Jay, and I'm here with two very special guests.
0:33.4	We most recently experienced one of the biggest album releases of the decade.
0:39.9	It's been really huge.
0:42.2	It's been really big.
0:43.5	And that is Let God Sort of Out by the Clips.
0:46.5	And so I wanted to have two people who I know could have this conversation with me about this epic hip- hop album and how we've experienced it as black
0:55.5	women. I'm here with culture journalist Star Rock. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm so
1:02.1	fucking excited. I always enjoy your tweets about being a journalist and navigating like these
1:09.7	hip-hop streets and talking to men of all people.
1:12.9	Like, what's the reason?
1:14.2	You always have great stories about that.
1:15.8	And I'm so excited to have Uccechi Chenieri with us, PR strategist and reluctant hip-hop enthusiasts.
1:22.5	We also had the pleasure of being on the grapevine together.
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