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Stay Tuned with Preet

What the Abrego Garcia Case Means for You

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Will the Trump administration facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States after officials admitted he was erroneously deported to El Salvador, or will it defy the Supreme Court’s order? Listen to an excerpt from the Insider podcast with Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance.   In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further discuss Abrego Garcia’s case, including the uncertainty over whether the SCOTUS ruling was unanimous, and the separation-of-powers implications of a court order related to the executive branch’s authority in international affairs.  They also analyze President Trump’s executive memoranda targeting two members of his first administration who criticized him: former Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency Director Chris Krebs and former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. If you want to hear from reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here.

0:03.6

Joyce Vance and I are back with a new episode of The Insider Podcast.

0:07.2

We discussed President Trump's memos targeting two members of his first administration who criticized him,

0:13.1

former cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency director Chris Krebs,

0:18.0

and Department of Homeland Security Chief of Staff, Miles Taylor.

0:21.7

Then updates in the case of Kilmara Brego Garcia, who the administration admits was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.

0:29.9

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:37.7

Stay tuned, listeners. Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:41.8

To hear the full discussion, become a member by heading to cafe.com slash insider.

0:47.8

Now on to the show.

0:53.2

I mean, look, it's plain as day in the Supreme Court's own words.

0:58.2

He was improperly sent to El Salvador.

1:01.5

And when you understand what justice means, putting aside good and bad faith interpretations

1:08.5

of particular verb, I'm just going to go back to this point, Everyone understands if you're acting in good faith and you're a competent understanding person

1:16.6

of English that if you've improperly sent someone someplace and you have it within your power

1:23.1

and certainly as a pragmatic and lawful matter, the executive branch led by the president does.

1:29.4

You bring the guy back.

1:31.5

And why wouldn't you?

1:32.9

How petty, right, to achieve your political goals on the back of this one guy.

1:40.5

I mean, the backstory for how he gets to the United States in Judge Zinnis's opinion is this. The family

1:48.0

owns a small shop that makes sort of filled tortilla sandwiches. And they are being, it's not clear

1:54.8

if they're being extorted by the gang, but somehow Abrago Garcia is being threatened, including

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