What Systemic Failures Connect the Nancy Guthrie, Anna Kepner, and D4VD Cases?
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Three active criminal matters. Three distinct jurisdictions. One forensic psychotherapist identifying the systemic failures that allegedly allowed each to occur. The Nancy Guthrie disappearance remains unsolved months after the eighty-four-year-old was allegedly abducted from her Tucson home. Unknown DNA is under analysis at the FBI laboratory in Quantico, and genetic genealogy is reportedly being applied. More than fifty thousand tips have been submitted. The investigation continues without a named suspect. In the Anna Kepner case, Timothy Hudson has been charged as an adult in the Southern District of Florida with first-degree murder in connection with his stepsister’s death on a Carnival cruise ship. He has pleaded not guilty. Parallel custody proceedings in Brevard County have produced a record of family collapse — parental expulsion, alleged alignment against the accused, and an emergency custody petition filed by the defendant’s biological father. In the D4VD case, David Anthony Burke faces first-degree murder charges with special circumstances in Los Angeles County in the alleged killing of fourteen-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. Prosecutors have alleged murder for financial gain and murder of a witness. Burke has pleaded not guilty. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, with more than three decades in forensic practice, joins True Crime Today to conduct a cross-case analysis examining perpetrator psychology in the Guthrie investigation, the clinical dynamics of family disintegration in the Kepner proceedings, and the developmental trajectory — from religious restriction through industry enmeshment — that allegedly preceded the D4VD charges.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Tiller's Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drink. |
| 0:10.0 | Hard to believe it. It's been more than 16 weeks since Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home. |
| 0:16.4 | More than 100 days now. I mean, we're almost damn near half a year in. |
| 0:21.0 | No arrest, no name |
| 0:22.7 | suspect, and somewhere |
| 0:24.3 | the person responsible |
| 0:26.4 | has |
| 0:28.6 | maybe, can I say maybe, |
| 0:30.5 | maybe been living, maybe not, |
| 0:33.2 | what probably looks |
| 0:34.7 | like a normal life. The evidence |
| 0:36.4 | points to a burglary gone catastrophically wrong. |
| 0:40.8 | Someone who walked in for something and left with an outcome that they could never undo. |
| 0:46.8 | That was one night. |
| 0:48.5 | But every day since has really required its own set of choices. |
| 0:52.6 | What to do with the evidence? Who to avoid, whether to run, whether to talk. |
| 0:58.2 | That's assuming the person is still alive. |
| 1:01.0 | And that's the operative point that we're going to be going from today because it's not so beneficial to talk about what a corpse would be doing if, in fact, that person is gone. |
| 1:11.0 | Joining us to discuss, as always, Robin Drake, retired FBI, special agency for the |
| 1:15.7 | Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. |
| 1:18.5 | And it is Wednesday, so psychotherapist, Chavon Scott, and author is also with us to help |
| 1:27.0 | us break down where this is all going. |
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