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And thanks for listening. Welcome to the H-BRAIDI Idea Cast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Sarah Green. I'm talking today

with Professor Pamela Stone from Hunter College. She's the author of

opting out, why women really Careers and Head Home. And she's the co-author

with Robin Eley and Colleen Ammerman of Harvard Business School. Of the HBR article,

Rethink What You Know about High Achieving Women. Pam, thank you so much for talking with our article, rethink what you know about high achieving women.

Pam, thank you so much for talking with us today.

That's my pleasure.

So the article is the result of a really massive survey of something like 25,000 graduates from Harvard Business School, mostly

MBA's, and you found that the female graduates were less likely to be in leadership roles

and actually also less likely to be satisfied with their careers.

And yet, you know, you didn't find any evidence that this was due to childbearing or taking

care of kids.

In fact, you found that women who are in leadership positions are actually more

likely to have made some career decisions that accommodate their family responsibilities.

So that's really counterintuitive to me and sort of counter to a lot of other stuff I've seen out

there so just tell me a little bit about why you think that is the case.

Right and let me give you a brief clarification Sarah on the numbers we did indeed

survey 25,000 Harvard Business School

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