This is the outside podcast with Paddyo.

When I'm standing at the top of that line, I trust that I can turn my snowboard down this mountain.

Where does fear come from?

For me, what I've learned, and I'm no psychologist or doctor,

fear lives in a past experience or in a future assumption of what might happen. In the present moment,

fear doesn't really exist. So I am sitting there breathing into my body, all of that potential

chaotic and fearful energy and transforming it into

energy that serves me while I'm on my snowboard. Oh, that's the hammer line right there.

My Midwestern upbringing means I pronounce my vowels through my right nostril, like backpack.

And I love me some team sports.

I spend a lot of time outside, but when I get home, I usually flip on the replay of the big game.

And the older I get, the less I want to hear from the extraordinarily talented professional

athletes in those postgame interviews.

Because here's my hot take, professional athletes are kind of boring.

Now, to be fair, I don't think these folks are fundamentally uninteresting.

I just think they're trained to say the least provocative thing possible

at all times. And rather than hearing for the thousandth time that we really had to pull together

as a team, just once I wish they'd let their guard down and tell us how they really felt.

Luckily, there is an athlete who does that, one who just so happens to

be on today's show, professional snowboarder Kimmy Fassani. Kimmy's On Snow accolades are remarkable.

She was the first woman to land a double backflip. She won Ryder of the Year in 2016.

She's both technically proficient and jaw-droppingly

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