Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger. And today we've got David French,

Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes. The gang is back. And we have plenty to talk about. We will

talk about China, the rolling protest and what the US can or should do. The Trump dinner,

but more what it says about where Trump is within the Republican Party than anything else.

Mass shootings, red flag laws and what Congress may accomplish during the lame duck session.

And finally, a little, is it worth your time at the end?

Let's dive right in, David. I'm going to start with you about these protests in China.

Rolling protests throughout the country, China's government acting like an authoritarian

government doing what they can to suppress those protests and even knowledge of those protests,

frankly, both inside and outside the country. What is a possible US response? What should the US

response be? There's been sort of a mixed message coming from over here and it seems pretty

tepid. Yeah, it does seem tepid when you're talking about some of the questions posed,

for example, the Biden administration's folks people and they want to, what do you want to say about

the protesters? Well, the protesters speak for themselves. It's been kind of a message that you've

seen from the podium and it seems tepid counter to that. The Biden administration has been pretty

hawkish on China to this point. The Biden administration, many members of it, it said they learned

from the way the Obama administration responded to the Iranian protesters in 09 and admitting that

was a mistake. So the Biden administration has been much more encouraging of the Iranian protests.

So what's going on in China? It's a really good question and there's been some back and forth

internally here at this dispatch. Back and forth online as to how much more forceful should Biden

be or Biden administration folks be. And on the one hand is the argument that, well, look,

going all the way back to Reagan and before it's entirely possible to be very forcefully on the

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