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What should the future of federal immigration enforcement look like?

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🗓️ 15 February 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

As lawmakers, and people around the country, grapple with what federal immigration enforcement should look like, Janet Napolitano, former DHS Secretary under President Obama, talks about the future - and the past - of ICE.


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0:00.0

The Department of Homeland Security or DHS is in a shutdown, which, depending on how long it lasts, may impact airport operations, disaster response, and cybersecurity.

0:09.9

What won't stop our immigration enforcement operations, even though the shutdown happened because of a congressional deadlock over the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.

0:19.4

To restore trust in ICE and Border Patrol, they must admit their mistakes, be honest and forthright with their rules of engagement, and pledge to reform.

0:31.3

That's Republican Senator Rand Paul during a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing last week.

0:37.0

Acting Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Todd Lyons testified during that hearing.

0:41.6

In regards to every law enforcement operation, of course we go back.

0:44.2

We look at lessons learned.

0:45.6

We always look back.

0:46.7

You know, at the end, the ownership of that is mine.

0:49.3

ICE has faced intense scrutiny after immigration agents shot and killed two U.S. citizens in Minneapolis

0:55.7

last month. I did give my condolences to the family and requested to meet them personally

1:00.6

to give my condolences on behalf of the officers and agents involved. Democrats have refused to approve

1:05.7

funding until new restrictions are put in place, like requiring immigration agents to wear body

1:10.4

cameras and to carry judicial warrants for raids.

1:13.9

Most Republicans have so far wanted fewer reforms leading to the deadlock.

1:18.6

But in Minnesota, things are changing.

1:21.6

Good morning.

1:23.3

I'm Tom Holman, Borerzer, President Trump.

1:25.8

Just days ago, Bordersar, Tom Homan, announced the end of the immigration surge in Minneapolis.

1:32.1

I'm very pleased to report that this surge operation have yielded the successful results we have came here for.

1:39.8

I have proposed, and President Trump has concur concurred that this surge operation conclude.

1:45.2

But was that operation a success?

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