Hello everyone and welcome back to the episode of Middle Ground.

I'm Caroline.

And I am Chris.

We have a new guest with us.

He's not so new.

But seasonal.

Smock my third, fourth time on the podcast third or fourth

i don't know i think fourth honestly you're very loungy yeah just chilling just came from work so

um and this is the night episode we really never record at night ever joe and i so um it is the

evening when we're recording this.

It's very dark outside, very cozy, very cold.

But it's warm in here, so we're going to have a great episode.

Can you talk a little bit closer to your mic?

Yes.

Okay, perfect, thank you.

Don't yell, though.

Anyways, I decided to have Chris on this week because by the title of the

episode, we're doing holiday gift guides and I wanted the opposite sex to be with us because

better perspective. If you have a boyfriend, if you have a dad, if you have any man or male figure in your life, you can buy a gift for as well as women um and yeah so before we

dive into today's episode let's do a grounding moment chris you want to go first um honestly my

grounding moment this week is that work and everything is over um it's nice to have a day off tomorrow

and to be relaxing and I'm looking

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