What Separates Couples Who Grow Apart vs Grow Together (Plus a BIG Update From Us!): Episode 445
EmPowered Couples with The Freemans
Aaron & Jocelyn Freeman
5.0 • 589 Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
There is one single thing that all couples who grow closer over time have in common. Though in the beginning of a relationship, you might not think that anything could get between you, what you realize as time passes is that you will need to fight…
When couples start to face challenges, tests, or unforeseen circumstances – they can tend to start to turn on each other. They see each other as opponents rather than teammates. That is when they fight against each other. But this episode is going to introduce a powerful mindset shift. It's the one that has you realize that the fight is not against each other, but against the problem you are facing.
Tune into this episode too as we have a big announcement. We had gotten a book deal from Penguin Random House for a brand new book, and it is now available for Pre-order. As a podcast listener you are the first to hear about it.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Empower Couples podcast. |
| 0:02.8 | We're here you get modern, non-boring relationship advice for you and your partner to communicate like pros, fight smarter and stay on the same team no matter the challenge that you face. |
| 0:11.8 | I am one of your hosts, Aaron Freeman. |
| 0:13.3 | And I'm Jocelyn Freeman, but you all just know us as the Freeman's. |
| 0:16.3 | And this episode is about what separates those couples who grow apart versus those that grow together. |
| 0:22.2 | And we have a couple exciting updates and announcements, things that you're going to really be |
| 0:27.0 | excited about, not just for us. And some you might not even expect or anticipate. So we'll get |
| 0:32.2 | there. But this question, what is the difference between couples who grow apart versus those who over their |
| 0:40.8 | lifetime together grow closer, even through the hardships, even through the challenges in the |
| 0:45.7 | different seasons? The answer is going to be simpler than you think. It isn't going to be some |
| 0:51.9 | magical tool. Like you will see people online marketing i have the magic |
| 0:57.3 | formula for marriages to be strong right like it's one tool it's one skill and it isn't just that |
| 1:05.9 | skill or tool it is something so much simpler that gets missed and it's this. |
| 1:12.7 | When you really think about it, no one gets together and then gets married thinking that they'll |
| 1:19.9 | have the kind of challenges or problems that they see other couples have. And this is the thing we want |
| 1:24.9 | to start to shift for you. It's not really an external factor because all those external factors are going to be different. |
| 1:32.8 | The stressors of various seasons as you're married are going to be different from one couple to another. |
| 1:39.5 | It could be professional, obviously giving a little bit away here. |
| 1:43.4 | Big changes when you become parents. |
| 1:45.3 | And so for most of our listeners, you know that to be the case. But there can be financial changes, |
| 1:51.7 | changes to your health, could have health losses with people in your family. You could have |
| 1:56.9 | different investments that go go wrong. And it's not about the thing that happens to you what it's about |
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