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🗓️ 23 August 2019
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We’ve all heard the fiendishly simple and completely untrue colloquialism about how to lose weight: Just eat less and exercise more. The idea that all calories are created equal has been one of the most pervasive and damaging food lies in history. Not only is it completely unsupported by science, it develops a blame-the-victim mentality that tells people who are struggling with their weight that it is just a matter of willpower. In this mini-episode of The Doctor’s Farmacy, Dr. Hyman talks with Gary Taubes about this topic and the history behind how science got it so wrong.
Gary Taubes is co-founder and President of the non-profit Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSI). He’s an investigative science and health journalist, the author of The Case Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat and Good Calories, Bad Calories. Gary is a former staff writer for Discover and correspondent for the journal Science. His writing has also appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, and Esquire, and has been included in numerous “Best of” anthologies, including The Best of the Best American Science Writing.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on this mini episode of the doctor's pharmacy. |
| 0:02.9 | Such a pervasive myth that weight gain is all about calories and calories out. |
| 0:07.0 | Why did we get it so wrong? And how do we not sort of stay stuck in this idea that all calories |
| 0:13.8 | are the same? Hi, I'm Kaya Perot, one of the producers of the doctor's pharmacy podcast. |
| 0:18.6 | Although many scientists and nutrition experts would have us believe that eating and gaining weight |
| 0:23.0 | is as simple as calories in and calories out, we know this isn't true. Dr. Hyman spoke to |
| 0:28.0 | investigative science and health journalists Gary Tobs about how this myth originated and why |
| 0:33.1 | it's the quality of the calories you eat that matters most. So you want to |
| 0:37.1 | paint an interview video with a panel of the trainer from the biggest loser who is saying that |
| 0:41.9 | weight gain is all about calories and calories out. It's such a pervasive myth and it is just a |
| 0:48.0 | math problem. It's energy balance, calories and calories out and you're proposing a different |
| 0:52.0 | idea, which suggests that it's not about the calories, it's about what calories you eat. So can |
| 0:56.4 | you take us down into how that works? Macron or trans influence insulin differently. So carbohydrate, |
| 1:02.4 | stimulate insulin, secretion, protein, stimulates in the little bit, fat does not. So you basically, |
| 1:09.1 | you think of your fat stores as like the wallet that you go to the ATM, you take money out of the ATM, |
| 1:15.2 | that's the food you're eating and you got to do something with. That's how you put it in your wallet. |
| 1:20.0 | But you got to be able to get it out of your wallet freely when you need it. An insulin doesn't |
| 1:24.4 | let you get it out of your wallet. So long eating a high star sugar diet, you can't get the money |
| 1:30.0 | namely the fat out of your wallet or your family or fat cells. It's, you know, what happened is, |
| 1:34.8 | and there was a lot of discussion back then that carbohydrates are turned into fat when you eat |
| 1:41.1 | excess carbs and they're not really turned into fat. That's a difficult process for your body to do |
| 1:46.5 | with its energy expense and it doesn't do it that much. But what your body does is make sure you burn |
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