Hey, everyone, welcome to from the kitchen table.

I'm your host, Sean Duffy.

Normally I have a co-host, Rachel Campos Duffy, but my five-year-old brought home a little bug from

kindergarten, and Rachel is out sick.

She's feeling better, but she had a very great 48-hour flu, which I've commented that my

immunities must be better than hers because I have not had it yet.

So Rachel's not in today.

I'm flying solo, and I thought to do a solo podcast.

There would be no better podcast than to bring in the great Jafin Chaffetz, former Utah Congressman,

chairman of the oversight committee and host of the Jason in the House podcast. So Jason Chafetz,

thanks for joining me and saving my podcast for this week. Well, you know, you set it up by telling me I was going to get to do a one-on-one with Rachel, but, you know, bait and switch, I'm here. I'm happy to chat with you. I appreciate that. That's my mantra here. I sell people. You're going to do something with Rachel. Then I'm like, oh, no, she can't make it. You get me. That's right.

Now I get zero. That's my mantra here. I sell people, you're going to do something with Rachel. Then I'm like, oh, no, she can't make it.

You get me.

That's right.

Now I get zero, Rachel. But, hey, you know, I love serving with you in Congress. You made it fun. You're always happy warrior, you know, a lot of weird things going on in Congress when we were there. but it was, you know, there were a lot of positive people and you were

certainly one of them. So we know, and I always say this about our fellow colleagues, even

former and current members, most people that go to Congress, whether they're a Republican or

Democrat, they're really nice people. You can't really be a jerk and win a popularity contest and then an idea contest and get elected.

You have to be a nice person.

Now, there are exceptions to that rule, and I'm not going to tell you who I think my exceptions are.

There are some jerks there.

But most of them are pretty nice.

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