You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. Have you ever felt like being the nice guy has actually held you back in life?

Like your desire to avoid conflict has actually kept you from standing up for what's right, or even from being the leader your family needs.

Well, on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's family talk, we're exploring a provocative

topic that challenges conventional thinking about what it means to be a godly man.

Our guests in studio are Paul and Sandy Cocklin.

Paul is the best-selling author of eight books and a nationally recognized expert on bullying

prevention.

In fact, his anti-bullying curriculum is used all across North

America and all around the world. You might have seen him on Good Morning America, ABC's Nightline,

or as a contributor on Fox News. Well, today here on Family Talk, we'll be focusing on Paul's

groundbreaking book called No More Christian Nice Guy, which makes a crucial distinction between being, quote, unquote, nice, and being good.

Sandy Cochlin is a successful blogger who shares her perspective as the wife of the self-described recovering nice guy.

Together with Paul, she co-authored Married but Not Engaged. Love that title.

And it was a book designed to help couples

navigate the challenges when husbands struggle with passivity. The Cochlands have three adult children

and make their home in central Oregon. So let's listen in now to this fascinating conversation

with Dr. James Dobson on today's edition of Family Talk.

You know, God created two sexes, not one, and it works best when the two are distinct.

And those temperaments, those characteristics of the personality that are identified with masculinity and femininity should be preserved.

And we're going to talk a little about that today.

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