What's up with Melania Trump?
Americano
The Spectator
4.0 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Melania Trump delivered a televised statement correcting the record on the rumours about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Has this backfired? Also on the podcast, Freddy Gray and Americano favourite Jacob Heilbronn discuss the latest ceasefire negotiations with Iran and Trump’s feud with is former MAGA fans, Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter and Candace Owens.
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| 0:00.0 | The British right is up for grabs. As May's local elections approach, the Conservatives face strong competition from Reform UK. |
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| 0:15.5 | We will pit the Conservatives represented by Matthew Saeed and Dominic Johnson against Reform UK, represented by |
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| 0:41.0 | Hello and welcome back to the Americano show. |
| 0:42.2 | My name is Freddie Gray. |
| 0:45.9 | I am the deputy editor of the spectator and the US editor. |
| 0:51.4 | And I'm pleased to tell you that this is the 10th year of the Americano podcast. |
| 0:57.3 | And I think it's fair to say it's been a fairly fascinating time in American politics, life and culture. And that's what we talk about every episode on this podcast. So please |
| 1:04.6 | keep listening and provide as much feedback as you like. Today I am delighted to be joined again by the great Jacob Harbrun, |
| 1:13.5 | the editor of the national interest. And we're going to be talking about Melania Trump and |
| 1:19.6 | Iran, two normally disconnected subjects. But last night, the First Lady rather surprised the |
| 1:27.1 | world by making a bizarre, I think it's fair to call it, statement about her relationship or non-relationship with Geoffrey Epstein, in which she said she had never been an Epstein victim. |
| 1:42.0 | And she distanced herself from a lot of the rumors that have been swirling around. |
| 1:48.6 | The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today. |
| 1:56.8 | The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility and respect. |
| 2:05.6 | I do not object to their ignorance, but rather I reject their mean-spirited attempts to defame my reputation. |
| 2:21.3 | I never been friends with Epstein. |
| 2:29.5 | Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time, |
| 2:38.1 | since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach. |
| 2:46.1 | Jacob, I don't know what you thought of it. It seemed to me odd, and in fact Melissa Kite's written a piece about this on our website, |
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