What’s up for grabs at the Trump-Putin summit?
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🗓️ 11 August 2025
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Summary
When Presidents Trump and Putin meet in Alaska on Friday, Volodymyr Zelensky will not even be present. Trump said on Monday that he would ‘try and win back territory’ for Ukraine – but also mentioned there will be ‘swapping’ of land. So what’s really on the table - and is it more than just ending the war?
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Guest: Professor Mark Galeotti, Historian, Times Contributor, Director of Mayak Intelligence and Author of We Need to Talk about Putin.
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Luke Jones. |
| 0:10.3 | As the war in Ukraine grinds through its fourth summer, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin have a date in the diary. |
| 0:18.4 | President Trump just announced when and where he will meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. |
| 0:23.6 | He says it'll take place next Friday, August 15th, 2025, in the Great State of Alaska. |
| 0:29.6 | This Friday. |
| 0:31.6 | Trump originally said he'd sought this conflict in 24 hours. |
| 0:35.6 | Only last Friday there was a deadline for Russia to end |
| 0:38.4 | the war, which came and went. So in Alaska, can this pair of presidents for a recently tricky |
| 0:47.6 | relationship and reach some kind of a ceasefire agreement in Ukraine? And if they can, shouldn't President Zelensky, the Ukrainian government, |
| 0:56.7 | any Ukrainian, be involved as well? |
| 1:08.9 | The story today? What is up for grabs at the Trump Putin summit? |
| 1:18.0 | Shall we start then with the easy question? |
| 1:24.2 | Introduce yourself for us, all your names and who you are. |
| 1:27.1 | I'm Mark Galiotti, |
| 1:28.0 | and as well as being a regular writer in the Sunday Times. I'm the director of the consultancy, |
| 1:33.4 | Myak Intelligence and honorary professor at University College London, and the author of Forged |
| 1:38.5 | in War, a military history of Russia. |
| 1:50.7 | We will get into the issues in a moment, but in terms of Friday, this summit, what is the plan? Where is it and why? |
| 1:53.1 | I mean, it's happening because Putin wants to be seen as a great power leader who can sit |
| 2:00.6 | down with the American president and resolve the |
| 2:02.9 | future of the world. And Trump is convinced that really he is the only person, the ultimate |
| 2:09.2 | dealmaker, who can bring some kind of resolution to the crisis in Ukraine. It's in Alaska. |
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