What's Trump's plan with Iran, and beyond? - with Niall Ferguson
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Ark Media
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🗓️ 2 February 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to an art media podcast. |
| 0:08.5 | The Trump people, by and large, are anti-neoconservative. |
| 0:13.1 | They have a very negative view of the forays into nation building and regime change in Iraq and Afghanistan. |
| 0:19.9 | And so what they're really interested in |
| 0:22.6 | is what I would characterize as regime alteration. We know what this looks like because it's |
| 0:28.2 | happening in Venezuela right now. They took Nicolas Maduro out and they said to his number two, |
| 0:36.3 | Delci, hey, here's the thing. You can either go to jail too, |
| 0:41.0 | or you can cooperate with us and you can carry on with your lousy regime, but you report to us now, |
| 0:48.2 | not to the Chinese, not to the Cubans. So regime alteration is not like regime change. It's not a kind of idealistic |
| 0:55.6 | attempt to remake a system. It's an attempt to change it from being in the camp of the authoritarian |
| 1:01.4 | regimes, China, Russia, etc. And put it in the American camp. |
| 1:30.5 | Yeah. It's 4 p.m. on Sunday, February 1st here in New York City, it is 11 p.m. on Sunday, February 1st in Israel, as Israelis wind down their day and monitor events in Iran and U.S. decision making as it relates to Iran. Over the weekend, the United States and Iran have both |
| 1:34.8 | signaled a willingness to enter talks aimed at, quote, easing tensions. Mediators, including |
| 1:40.0 | Turkey, Egypt, and Qatar are now working to organize a meeting this week in Ankara between |
| 1:44.3 | U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and Iranian officials. American officials told Israel's |
| 1:50.0 | Channel 12 that President Trump's calls for a deal are genuine and not cover for an imminent military |
| 1:55.6 | strike. Meanwhile, the IDF's chief of staff, Ayal Zemir, met with senior U.S. defense officials in Washington |
| 2:01.5 | over the weekend to discuss Iran. This happened as the U.S. continued moving military assets into |
| 2:07.0 | the region, including missile defense systems and a naval destroyer currently docking in Israel's |
| 2:12.1 | Red Sea port of a lot. According to Israeli Army radio, Zemir has stated in a recent security assessment that a potential |
| 2:19.7 | American strike on Iran could occur within, quote, two weeks to two months. |
| 2:24.9 | On Sunday, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khomeini addressed the tensions by issuing his |
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