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🗓️ 21 November 2025
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Amid his war on 'narco-terrorists', Donald Trump is believed to have given the CIA approval to begin covert operations in Venezuela. Freddy Gray is joined by Daniel McCarthy to discuss why Trump is considering regime change, if it would be successful, and whether victories abroad provide a distraction from political challenges at home.
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| 0:34.8 | Hello and welcome back to the Americano Show, a series of discussions in which we talk about American politics, power and prejudices. |
| 0:44.4 | Each week, we will do at least two possibly more episodes speaking to an American or an American expert about what is going on in America. We will cover the Trump presidency, |
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| 1:14.3 | I'm going to be joined today by the great Daniel McCarthy, who is of course a spectator columnist and editor of modern age. |
| 1:23.7 | And we're going to be talking about Venezuela because not in the latest issue, but in the issue before, Dan wrote a very good column about the Trump administration's increasing, it seems, belligerence towards the Venezuelan regime, which is, of course, an awful regime. |
| 1:40.7 | But Trump has, it seems, given authorization to the CIA to conduct covert operations in Venezuela, |
| 1:48.2 | and there does appear to be a concerted attempt at regime change by the Trump administration in the country. |
| 1:56.1 | And of course, Dan, this doesn't sit very naturally with the Trump foreign policy that a lot of |
| 2:04.3 | people wanted back when he emerged as a presidential candidate in 2016. And yet at the same time, |
| 2:12.2 | this Western hemispheric influence, this Western hemispheric agenda, it does tie into that, doesn't it? |
| 2:20.3 | It does. And you know, even in the first term, Donald Trump had made various moves against Nicholas Maduro. |
| 2:25.9 | So at one point, the United States tried to declare that a rival political figure named Juan Guido was in fact the leader of the country. |
| 2:33.5 | And of course, that was, you know, you can make a claim like that, but it doesn't actually have any force |
| 2:37.7 | behind it. And so it achieved nothing. But even in the first term, there were signs that the Trump |
| 2:42.3 | administration, or at least people within it wanted to, you know, drive Maduro out of power |
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