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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

What’s the State of Misinformation? with Renée DiResta

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.921.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

We’re all so used to turning to our phones for information, but how exactly does it travel across the internet…and what happens if that information is wrong? Renée DiResta is the perfect expert to break it all down for us! Jonathan and Renée dig into the differences and potential dangers of misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda. From generative AI and Father Coughlin, to political polarization and being subpoenaed by Jim Jordan, we cover it all. Renée DiResta is the Research Manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory where she investigates the spread of malign narratives across social networks, and assists policymakers in understanding and responding to the problem. She has advised Congress, the State Department, and other academic, civic, and business organizations, and has studied disinformation and computational propaganda in the context of pseudoscience conspiracies, terrorism, and state-sponsored information warfare. Her latest book, “Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality” is out on June 11th. You can follow Renée on Threads @renee.diresta and on LinkedIn. Follow us on Instagram @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation. Jonathan is on Instagram @JVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Find books from Getting Curious guests at bookshop.org/shop/curiouswithjvn. Our senior producers are Chris McClure and Julia Melfi. Our engineer is Nathanael McClure. Production support from Julie Carrillo, Anne Currie, and Chad Hall. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Jonathan Van Ness.

0:02.0

Americans United for separation of church and state

0:04.8

defends your freedom to live as yourself

0:07.4

and believe as you choose,

0:09.4

so long as you don't harm others.

0:12.0

Core freedoms, like abortion rights, marriage equality, public education,

0:16.1

and even American democracy itself rest upon the wall of separation

0:20.9

between church and state.

0:22.6

Christian nationalists are attacking these freedoms,

0:25.6

seeking to force us all to live by their narrow beliefs.

0:29.7

Americans United is fighting back.

0:32.3

Freedom without favor and equality without exception.

0:35.7

Learn more about A U at A U.org slash curious.

0:40.9

Darling I was on a vacation recently and stayed at an Airbnb, and then I realized that while I was away, my empty house could be making money, honey.

0:53.0

If you're someone like me that is busy and not home all the time,

0:57.0

your home could be an AirB&B,

1:00.0

and it's actually pretty simple to get started.

1:02.0

Even if you don't have a whole house, you could start with just a spare room.

1:06.4

Personally, I really enjoy staying at Airbnb's.

1:09.2

I really do I love a good Airbnb.

1:10.8

Who is that? Come back, British you. And it really is a great way to like support

1:14.3

local economy and support local people. So Airbnb is fabulous and I know I was doing my British

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