What's the point of university?
Moral Maze
BBC
4.5 • 609 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Eight universities are under investigation for providing poor quality degrees. The Office for Students has sent inspectors in to investigate whether undergraduates are getting decent value in return for the huge debts they rack up to get their degrees. For years, there’s been concern about so-called “Mickey Mouse” degrees that do nothing to boost job prospects.
But the expansion of universities was rooted in a grand ambition to create a better-educated workforce and to turbo-charge social mobility; a wider variety of degree courses, it was thought, would offer something for everyone. Surely it's positive that more young people now get an opportunity that years ago was offered only to a privileged few? University is about more than boosting the student’s future earnings; it’s about learning to think critically, gaining independence and broadening horizons.
Some, though, believe we have too many universities competing for customers by offering firsts to failures. Standards have fallen, and so many people now have degrees that they don’t count for much any more. Young people, it's claimed, are being misled into taking on huge personal debts, in return for three wasted years that will do little to improve their employability. Have we reached peak-university? Is it time to go into reverse? Are we reducing the value of higher education, or is the university experience valuable for its own sake? What's the point of university?
With Rachel Hewitt, Harry Lambert, Professor Dennis Hayes and Professor Edith Hall.
Producers: Jonathan Hallewell and Peter Everett Presenter: Michael Buerk
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.2 | Good evening. It was billed, and many still see it, as one of Britain's great success stories. |
| 0:10.3 | The huge expansion in higher education, which has turned university from being the privilege of the 5% elite, |
| 0:16.6 | to a mass experience for more than 50% of our young people. |
| 0:20.4 | But is it a triumph or a con? |
| 0:23.1 | This week came news that investigators have been sent into eight, |
| 0:26.5 | as yet unnamed universities, accused of offering poor-quality degrees. |
| 0:31.0 | Critics talk of dumbed down courses, wildly inflated degrees, |
| 0:35.3 | disappointment in the jobs market and lifelong debt. |
| 0:38.8 | Four out of every ten graduates now get a first, a proportion that's doubled in a decade, |
| 0:43.6 | and most the university's watchdog says, cannot be explained. |
| 0:47.9 | What's also difficult to explain is that even though so many more go to university |
| 0:51.9 | and achieve so much better results, |
| 0:58.7 | Britain is the only developed country in the world where young adults are, on average, |
| 1:01.0 | less literate and numerate than their parents. |
| 1:05.6 | The degree is not an automatic passport to a premium job either. |
| 1:10.4 | Currently around half our graduates go into roles previously done by non-graduates. |
| 1:13.8 | So is university for so many really such a good thing? |
| 1:15.5 | Does it widen their minds? |
| 1:16.7 | Launch their careers? |
| 1:18.2 | Increase social mobility. |
| 1:24.4 | Or are many paying a high price for a second-rate course, a worthless degree, and no welcome in the workplace? |
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