What’s the Left’s Vision for Foreign Policy After Trump?
The Ezra Klein Show
New York Times Opinion
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🗓️ 9 June 2026
⏱️ 94 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The I think we may be in a moment of foreign policy rupture in the Democratic Party. |
| 0:35.2 | It reminds me of years ago when the Iraq War we made the Democratic Party. |
| 0:39.3 | The Iraq War, which is why Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primary, |
| 0:43.8 | changing the course of American politics. |
| 0:45.9 | Because I will offer a clear contrast. |
| 0:48.0 | As somebody who never supported this war, thought it was a bad idea. |
| 0:51.7 | I don't want to just end the war, but I want to end the mindset |
| 0:54.2 | that got us in the war in the first place. That's the kind of leadership I'm going to provide. |
| 0:58.5 | Right now, Israel and Gaza feel to me like they are becoming the center of a similar rupture. |
| 1:05.0 | The thing that started here for me was a few weeks ago, Brian Schatz, who is a Democratic senator |
| 1:09.8 | from Hawaii. He's often talked of as maybe the next Senate Democratic ago, Brian Schatz, who is a Democratic senator from Hawaii. |
| 1:14.4 | He's often talked of as maybe the next Senate Democratic leader after Chuck Schumer, |
| 1:18.0 | so a guy with an incredible sense of the pulse of the party. |
| 1:19.3 | He tweeted, I'm not into blacklisting anyone from future work in their area of expertise, |
| 1:23.6 | but I do think it's fair to want a whole new crop, a whole new crop, of foreign policy staffers in the next Democratic administration. |
| 1:32.0 | It's not like the same 120 people are the only people who know anything. |
| 1:36.8 | Then Senator Chris Van Hollen, again, very well respected in the party, very much someone in its mainstream. |
| 1:42.7 | He wrote an opinion piece for the Times, |
| 1:45.4 | laying out how different he thinks the Democratic Party's policy on Israel needs to be, |
| 1:49.6 | how badly thinks the Biden administration's policy failed, and then he went on to say, |
| 1:54.9 | primary voters won't trust any Democratic presidential candidate who does not have a record |
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