It's Dr. Karen from the referral podcast here just dropping into bus yet another myth,

but this time it's not medical. Now it's a common misconception that a TV licence is just for

watching stuff on a TV, rather than a laptop or a phone, and you only need it if you're watching

BBC content. This is false information. The licence gives you access to over 400 live TV channels too,

for around 44p a day. You can get your licence and find out more info at www.tvl.co.uk slash unipod.

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where every week I sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert told

all about something that makes me curious. So you know that feeling when you try on address

and you love it and then you realize it has pockets. Those pockets have more than 500 years of

history in them, and honey I just never thought about that. And today we're turning that history

inside out. Welcome to the show Hana Carlson, who is an award-winning clothing historian,

researcher and author. She's a senior lecturer in the apparel design department at the

Rhode Island School of Design, and the author of the new book, Pockets, an intimate history of how

we keep things close. Hana, how are you? I'm great, thanks for having me. And that expression

is got pockets is something that you know motivated me to write this book. So it is officially like 108

degrees in Texas. If you're a centigrade person, I don't even know how hot that is, but suffice to

say it's very hot. I'm in that time of year where I'm wearing just Kim Kardashian skims,

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