Hey folks, Ellie Honeg here.

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This week I'm joined by Asher Rankappa to discuss the many legal battles surrounding the

social media app, Tikic-Toc.

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I've seen in the research that over 150 million Americans are on Tik-Tog. I mean that's

nearly half the country. It's 40% or so of the country. I can't imagine that there's anything

that's more influential, but the thing that I think is confounding for me and I

think for a lot of people is why is this app where it's basically kids doing lip sinks and dances, right, for the most part?

Maybe I'm oversimplifying what's actually on there.

Why is this scene as such a threat by our federal government.

So I think that the main reason is that the parent company of Tik-Tock

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