What’s the COVID Risk Right Now? (with Bob Wachter)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

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4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Have we reached the so-called "new normal" people keep talking about? And if so, what does that mean for you? Andy reunites with former guest host Dr. Bob Wachter who has started to let his guard down in terms of risk tolerance. They discuss why Bob feels like the time is right for that, how to think about the things that can scare us back into a more vigilant state, and Bob's thoughts for what COVID looks like long-term. This is a nuanced conversation on a complex topic that will help you navigate this uncertain time. Plus, Andy’s mom joins at the start to offer up some show ideas.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Learn more about how the oral antivirals from Merck and Pfizer work and what they could mean for the pandemic: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-antiviral-drugs-merck-pfizer-pills-work-rcna5317
Here’s more on the third wave hitting Denmark: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/denmark-reinstate-corona-passport-after-rise-infections-tv-2-2021-11-08/
Read more about Bob’s decision-making shift: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/briefing/pandemic-return-nomal-coronavirus.html
He was also featured in the San Francisco Chronicle recently about risk assessment: https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/COVID-new-normal-risks-16557732.php
Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/
Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165

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1:11.9	Welcome in the bubble. This is your host Andy Slavitt. How are we all feeling today?
1:16.8	We have a great episode for you. You'll have Bob, Wachter and Andy Slavitt on
1:22.9	the same show. I know it'll seem strange. Bob is the great physician that had a
1:27.9	virtual medicine at UCSF. He was my substitute host when I was at the White House.
1:31.5	He'll be joining us for the show in just a few minutes. But first I want to talk to
1:36.0	you, you on your treadmill, whatever you're doing. Hopefully not playing me on
1:41.2	rapid speed. Otherwise I talk really, really fast. But on a normal speed. So cases
1:45.4	arising to get in the US. What the guy noticed? Cases are always either rising or
1:50.6	falling. Funny how that works. Sometimes they're rising. Sometimes they're
1:55.7	falling. And it's interesting because I think when cases are rising like our blood
2:00.6	pressure goes up at the same rate. In cases that are falling, it feels like our
2:06.3	blood pressure might be going down at the same rate. Why is that? Is that a good
2:11.0	thing? That was natural over the course of 2020 and early to 2021. But maybe just
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