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It's Complicated

What's So Complicated About A Special Grand Jury; Copycat Coup in Brazil

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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This week Asha and Renato delve into the Special Grand Jury that just wrapped up in Georgia. Does Fani Willis have the goods? Also, Brazil faced a January 6th-style attack on January 8th. How will they handle the aftermath of their copycat coup? Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Asha's Substack: https://www.asharangappa.substack.com Subscribe on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/   Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti   Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

M. S. W. Media.

0:04.0

So Asha, it looks like Fulton County, D.A. Fanny Willis is starting to close in on Trump.

0:16.0

How strong is her case?

0:18.0

It's complicated. I'm Renata Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:32.0

And I'm Asha Rengappa.

0:33.8

I teach national security law at Yale University.

0:36.7

I'm a former FBI special agent,

0:39.0

and I'm a legal and national security analyst. And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a sound bite or a tweet. So, Asha, it really seems like an indictment is close in the Fulton County case.

1:01.0

The special grand jury ended their investigation.

1:05.0

Every public statement I've seen from Fannie Willis seems like she's just very

1:10.8

determined to indict Trump. I really think that's where this is going. What about you?

1:15.2

I think so. I mean, she has subpoenaed a ton of witnesses, including some, you know, pretty high up names, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis,

1:28.3

even Lindsay Graham was forced to come in and testify.

1:33.0

So, you know, I think that you might be right.

1:36.0

I was actually asked on Katie Fang's show last week

1:40.0

whether I thought which of the cases were going to move first. I had said Maralago. I didn't

1:47.4

think that funny Willis was this close, but you know if the special grand jury, and I think just to, for our listeners, the special

1:55.3

grand jury did not have the capacity to issue an indictment.

2:00.7

She would have to go to a regular grand jury, I take it, to, and then present her

2:06.9

evidence and get that indictment.

2:10.7

Yeah, what that looks like just so our listeners understand is essentially the investigators

2:19.1

will be brought into the grand jury as witnesses and then they will read the transcripts.

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