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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

What's Russia Planning

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of The Remnant, Jonah attempts to live out his closeted dream of becoming an American spy by diving into a report titled "The Kremlin's Occupation Playbook: Coerced Russification and Ethnic Cleansing in Occupied Ukraine." He is joined by Karolina Hird, author of the report, to discuss the Kremlin’s heartbreaking tactic of deporting and forcibly adopting Ukrainian children, a ploy designed to alter the demographic fabric of the occupied territories. Hear about the critical issue of delayed aid to Ukraine, Russia's strategic use of timing on the battlefield, and the strictly censored Russian media landscape that stifles authentic discourse on the conflict. Show Notes: —Karolina Hird's profile at the Institute for the Study of War —Interactive Map: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine —ISW's Ukraine Conflict Updates page Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

0:17.0

Can I please have your attention?

0:19.0

Tell you, Jim Geegan! Oh, Jigya! Greetings your listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host the Remmin Podcast.

0:27.0

Brought to you by The dispatch and dispatch media.

0:34.1

So quick backstory.

0:36.9

I've been name dropping this report a few times in the last couple months

0:41.9

since it came out.

0:43.0

The Kremlin's occupation playbook,

0:46.0

coerced rustification and ethnic cleansing and occupied Ukraine.

0:50.0

I think it's a great piece of work and I wanted it to get more attention and then some

0:56.6

gnome at AI contacted Guy Denton my gnome and said hey why don't you have the author of the report on the remnant if you think it's so good?

1:06.6

And I normally I like to not encourage my research assistance from thinking they have good ideas, but this was a good idea.

1:14.8

And so we've invited Carolina Heard, who's the Russia Team Deputy Lead at the Institute for

1:20.9

Study Award to come on. I should clarify, I actually just learned the

1:27.4

actual status of this moments ago. I always thought a bias-w is sort of

1:31.9

affiliated or associated or certainly I think it is

1:36.2

literally adjacent in a geographic space to AI you know where I hang my hat, but it is not. It's an independent entity. It's just that we share

1:46.7

Fred Gagan, who listeners remember, is so sharp, you need a turnicate every time you shake his hand.

1:52.4

And so beyond that that's all and

1:56.1

ISW does like some of the best open source stuff but why am I explaining it to you I can

2:01.9

have Carolina explain it to you.

2:03.2

So, Carolina, welcome to the remnant.

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