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American Thought Leaders

What’s Really Happening at the CDC? | Dr. Robert Malone

American Thought Leaders

The Epoch Times

Government, News, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

With President Donald Trump recently challenging pharmaceutical companies to “justify success” of their COVID-19 products, I’m sitting down with scientist, physician, and author Dr. Robert Malone to get his insights into what’s going on behind the scenes.

Dr. Malone is currently serving as a member of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and also as a medical advisor for MAHA Action.

The recent firing of CDC director Susan Monarez was followed by the resignations of several top CDC officials. At the same time, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has also announced that the emergency-use authorization for the COVID-19 vaccine products has been rescinded.

Is Trump’s recent Truth Social post a turning point in his stance on the COVID-19 vaccines and the success of Operation Warp Speed?

What does the future hold for the ACIP? What will they be evaluating in upcoming meetings? And what challenges and major opportunities does Dr. Malone see?

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

Transcript

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0:00.0

With President Trump challenging pharmaceutical companies to justify success of the COVID-19 products,

0:07.0

and with the recent removal and resignations of several top CDC officials, I'm sitting down with Dr. Robert Malone to get his insights into what's going on behind the scenes.

0:17.0

He's basically put his foot down and said, guys, I'm tired of this.

0:21.4

Let's get to the bottom of it, get it cleaned up, and move on.

0:24.5

What does the future hold for the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices,

0:29.5

ASEP, of which Dr. Malone is one of the members?

0:32.9

What are the challenges and major opportunities he sees?

0:36.4

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Janja Kellick.

0:42.3

Robert Malone, so good to have you on American Thought Leaders.

0:45.8

Thank you for having me back, Jan.

0:47.2

These are interesting times.

0:48.9

Well, incredibly interesting times.

0:51.2

Over the weekend, President Trump had a truth social post that when I looked at it,

0:57.2

I thought to myself, my goodness, has the world changed? What was your reaction? You said,

1:03.0

hmm, very interesting, but I know there was a lot of thought behind that.

1:06.6

Well, of course, it's a little bit tongue-in-cheek having to do, if you're of a certain age, with

1:12.9

Ronan Martin's Laughan, where there was a character that always had that tagline, very interesting,

1:20.7

when various interesting things were occurring on the show. In this case, what we've got is President Trump putting out a

1:29.7

very thoughtful post on truth social, his home platform, in which he is taking the position

1:38.4

that he has questions about the safety and effectiveness of the COVID products, medical products in

1:47.4

particular. He never says vaccines. And he's apparently perplexed that the information that has been

1:56.8

shared with him from Pfizer and others about the success of Operation Warp Speed is not

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