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What's Our Problem?

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Humanity Forward Productions

Society & Culture

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Tim Urban, creator of the popular blog "Wait But Why," argues that our usual left-right politics misses an important dimension: whether we are using our higher mind or our primitive mind. Andrew sits down with Tim for a wide-ranging conversation on human nature, "high-rung" vs. "low-rung" thinking, political golems, and how we can overcome our more primitive instincts to create a better society. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/KRl5301kQoI Follow Tim Urban: https://waitbutwhy.com | https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy Follow Andrew Yang: https://forwardparty.com | https://twitter.com/andrewyang To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A liberal democracy is always going to have goals.

0:02.0

It's always going to have these kind of political tribes

0:04.8

or religious tribes or whatever.

0:06.1

And the thing that makes a liberal democracy special

0:08.8

isn't that it gets rid of these.

0:11.0

It's that it has an immune system to keep them from taking over.

0:16.4

And what's happened, I think, in the last decade,

0:19.6

a few decades, but especially in most recent decades,

0:22.7

maybe due to social media and a few other things,

0:25.6

people have gotten to very, very scared of these goals.

0:28.5

They become scarier, you know?

0:30.6

And that has turned into the people stopping

0:35.2

standing up for liberal values and going quiet.

0:39.1

And that's the immune system failing.

0:41.2

That's, you know, when you scale up, a bunch of scared

0:44.1

individuals, you get a mass scale, you get this immune system

0:47.6

failing, and these golems kind of like Godzilla

0:50.0

trampling through society in a way that they really couldn't

0:53.6

do in the older days.

0:54.8

You know, this is pretty new.

0:58.5

It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast, the author of the new book, What's Our Problem.

1:25.2

You know him as, wait, but why?

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