What’s Next in Gaza
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🗓️ 18 October 2023
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Just as there are stages of grief, there are stages of war, and Israel isn't an early |
| 0:13.6 | one. |
| 0:15.6 | Israel is still reeling from the trauma of the attack, October 7th. |
| 0:20.8 | That manifests in a number of ways, and one is that there's a certain amount of Israeli |
| 0:25.4 | policy that is driven right now by wrath. |
| 0:28.4 | A combination of anger, fear, mourning, and revenge, which given the circumstances, seems |
| 0:36.4 | like a dangerous place to be. |
| 0:39.1 | This is Radio-Atlantic, I'm Hannah Rosen. |
| 0:41.7 | Today, as war in the Middle East is getting more intense, we look at what happens when a nation |
| 0:47.1 | makes critical wartime decisions in this state of mind. |
| 0:51.9 | And how they move from there to step two. |
| 0:55.6 | A stage that's more strategic, more practical, maybe even conciliatory. |
| 1:02.7 | As Biden was on his way to Israel, I spoke with Graham Wood, an Atlantic staff writer who's |
| 1:07.5 | been reporting in the Middle East in recent months. |
| 1:10.1 | We reached him in Jerusalem on Tuesday. |
| 1:14.2 | Graham, you have landed in Israel. |
| 1:17.9 | Can you just talk about some of the things that you've seen and encountered this week? |
| 1:22.0 | Well, I actually landed in Jordan, so the first thing that I noticed was it was difficult |
| 1:26.2 | to get to Israel. |
| 1:27.9 | There were so many rockets that were coming out of Gaza that airlines understandably pulled |
| 1:33.4 | back. |
| 1:34.4 | So I flew into Jordan, landed there, and then went by land into an Israel that was very |
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