What's Next for Turning Point USA? Continuing the Legacy of Charlie Kirk with Mikey McCoy & Pastor Rob

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

What will happen to TPUSA without its fearless leader, Charlie Kirk? Frank sits down with two people who knew him best, Charlie's pastor, Rob McCoy, and his son, Mikey McCoy—Charlie’s close friend and Chief of Staff at TPUSA. Together they discuss how Charlie's vision, faith, and leadership will continue to guide TPUSA even in his absence. During their conversation, they’ll tackle questions like:* What's it like working at TPUSA without Charlie and what gives staff members the most comfort?* What was Charlie's main vision and goal for TPUSA in 2025?* What was it like to work with Charlie 24/7 behind the scenes?* How did Charlie and Mikey first meet and what was so unusual about Mikey's job interview?* How did Rob become Charlie's pastor and why was Charlie first invited to speak at his church?* In what ways did Pastor Rob and Pastor Jack Hibbs help shape Charlie’s spiritual walk and ministry?* What made Charlie so loyal to his friends and colleagues?* How can people help and support TPUSA right now?* Why does Pastor Rob call Charlie "a modern day Moses"?Charlie wanted to be remembered for his faith above all else—and this episode offers an intimate look at the man behind the movement. You’ll hear personal stories that reveal his heart for the Gospel and the mission that still drives TPUSA today. Tune in to discover how Mikey, Erika Kirk, and the rest of Charlie's amazing team is carrying Charlie’s vision into the future—and how you can be part of it.If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Donate to CrossExamined.org - https://donor.crossexamined.org/TPUSA.com - https://tpusa.com/AmericaFest 2025 - https://www.amfest.com/

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, they say behind every great man is a very surprised mother-in-law.
0:09.0	Yeah, that's true, but there are also great men and women behind every great man and woman.
0:15.0	And today I want to introduce you to a couple of them. You probably already know them, but maybe not as much as you should.
0:21.0	They're two of my favorite people in the world. And they knew Charlie much better than I did.
0:27.0	And they supported Charlie beyond what you could imagine, not only up to his death, but on the day of his death.
0:35.4	And right now they're continuing that. And they're from
0:38.8	the same family. Pastor Rob McCoy and his son, Mikey McCoy. Rob's going to join us in a few
0:46.0	minutes, but Mikey is with us right now. And let me tell you something about Mikey. Mikey's been with
0:53.6	Charlie for several years. he's 23 years old
0:56.7	he is wise beyond his years and when that tragedy struck Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody
1:06.7	calm and did some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the worst
1:14.6	day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. I'm hoping
1:22.5	that Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus because he has the
1:27.1	ability, the deme he has the ability,
1:28.4	the demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so. Right now he's going to be supporting Erica,
1:35.6	who is beyond doubt the best choice to succeed Charlie right now. She, as you know, is a warrior
1:42.1	for truth. And despite being in great pain, she is moving
1:46.6	T.P.USA forward, Charliekirk.com forward. And Mikey has a big role in that. So, Mikey,
1:53.1	I wish we didn't have to do this podcast, but we're going to do it. And I want people to know you.
1:58.2	I know people are, they're wondering, how is Mikey McCoy holding up?
2:02.2	I mean, you were just at the White House yesterday.
2:04.9	I mean, you're out there, Mikey.
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