This is fresh air, I'm Terry Gross.

The Christian conservative movement's most influential arm is the Alliance Defending

Freedom, writes my guest David Kirkpatrick in the New Yorker in an article titled The

Next Targets for the Group that overturned Row.

The Alliance Defending Freedom, the ADF, is an activist legal group that works through

the courts where it's been very successful.

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pandemic-related public health rules and establishing the right of a baker to refuse to make a cake for

a same-sex wedding.

The ADF's current goals include restricting access to the abortion pill, Mifopristone,

or banning it altogether, as well as limiting the authority of the FDA which approved the

pill, and restricting LGBTQ rights with an emphasis on children and adults who identify

as transgender.

A little later we'll talk with Kirkpatrick about his interview last week with one of the

leaders of Hamas, about the attack on Israel.

David Kirkpatrick is a staff writer at the New Yorker for 22 years he was a reporter for

The New York Times.

He covered the Christian conservative movement and later covered the Arab Spring.

During the Trump administration he investigated ethically questionable ties between members

of the administration and several Gulf nations including Saudi Arabia.

We recorded our interview yesterday morning.

David Kirkpatrick welcome back to fresh air.

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