Hey, good evening, everybody, and thank you for joining us this evening with Fran.

Some of you may be familiar with Fran, but I'm going to, I'm assuming that a lot of you

are new subscribers and not familiar with Fran's amazing story, whereby she was incarcerated,

got involved with the gangs with the substances in a UK city,

and she ended up on this journey through the UK female prison system where she met and was inspired by Kate Middleton of all people.

Can you believe it?

Fran has her own YouTube channel,

and all of her social links are in the description box for this video

she's also one of the ex female gangsters in my book sit downs with female gangsters and please go

and support fran at her youtube channel link is in the description box and i'll put it in the live chat

shortly as well so before we get into all this, huge thank you for coming on, Fran.

And, you know, for viewers who are not familiar with your story, if you just give them a little

bit of background before we get into this, that would be great. Sure. Yeah, so thank you for having me on, Sean, anyway. And so I was done for

conspiracy to supply Class 8 drugs. I served three years, eight months behind bars,

got into the drug world from about 13, was a drug addict, hence why I ended up selling

drugs. And now I'm out, out of that world totally, set up a YouTube channel to support, you know,

people that might be facing prison or have an understanding about why we do the things we do.

All right. So I know I've sent you some little bit of information about Julia.

You're not, you know, you've not really been following the story and the depth.

The people on this channel have been following it.

But your expertise is in the UK prison system.

So from what you've seen today then, what do you think is happening with her right now in terms of her getting processed?

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