What’s next for Israel and Gaza?
Pod Save the World
Pod Save the World
4.8 • 25.5K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2023
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
Tommy and Ben talk about the latest from Israel and Gaza, including the Netanyahu government’s policy and intelligence failures, the devastating toll on civilians in Israel and Gaza, questions about hostages and reports that Israel may launch a ground offensive into Gaza. They also cover the varied international response to the attack, the history of Hamas, and conflicting reports about Iranian culpability. Then Ben talks to Gregg Carlstrom, the Middle East correspondent for The Economist, about political dynamics within Israel, the timing of the attack, and the unprecedented nature of this developing conflict.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Ben Rhodes. |
| 0:07.0 | Ben, I have no playful banter for you today. |
| 0:16.6 | It's not kind of a banter world that they're right now. |
| 0:19.1 | It's been a dark, dark couple of days. |
| 0:21.5 | Well, yeah. |
| 0:22.5 | I was about to say, and the picture, it's lost 35, nothing, but maybe that's it. |
| 0:27.2 | Obviously, I was referencing that, but also the situation. |
| 0:29.5 | Yes. |
| 0:30.5 | And the Israel and Gaza has been horrible. |
| 0:32.2 | Obviously, we're going to focus on Israel and Gaza almost exclusively today, including |
| 0:37.5 | the latest horrifying statistics, the policy and intelligence failure by the Israeli government, |
| 0:42.5 | the situation in Gaza as the IDF conducts this airstrike campaign, Biden's response, |
| 0:47.6 | the international response, and then a bit of an explainer on what Hamas is. |
| 0:50.9 | And then Ben, you did the interview this week. |
| 0:53.1 | Who'd you talk to? |
| 0:54.1 | I talked to Greg Carlström, who's the Middle East correspondent for the Economist and |
| 0:58.4 | a really great Twitter follow on a website that's been unusually bad. |
| 1:03.2 | Obviously. |
| 1:04.2 | Great. |
| 1:05.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:06.2 | Twitter follow. |
| 1:07.2 | He's the one to follow. |
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