What's Next for Impeachment
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 24 December 2019
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Summary
On Thursday, December 19, the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Donald Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Before that vote, the Brookings Institution's Governance Studies program assembled an all-star panel—Sarah Binder, William Galston, John Hudak, Molly Reynolds, and Lawfare's own Benjamin Wittes—to talk through how we got here and just what might happen next.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:55.6 | All of the change in public opinion related to this phase of controversy over impeachment |
| 1:25.5 | hate. |
| 1:32.5 | There has been no change since then. |
| 1:35.5 | And so yes, there were people who were moved by the first wave of information, the revelation |
| 1:43.7 | itself. |
| 1:45.5 | Those people have not moved back. |
| 1:47.7 | I think the relevant fact in evaluating where we are now politically is that no other |
| 1:53.8 | people net have moved since October 2nd. |
| 1:57.7 | And my judgment is that they are unlikely to do in the next 10 weeks what they fail to |
| 2:03.1 | do in the past 10 weeks and they say they won't. |
| 2:06.6 | So I think the relevant political baseline for judging this entire episode is where we |
| 2:14.9 | are right now for better or for worse. |
| 2:18.5 | And the idea that because there was a leap in the past, there's going to be another leap |
| 2:22.4 | in the future, I think is contrary to the evidence as I read it. |
| 2:28.5 | I'm Michaela Fogel and this is the Law Fair Podcast December 24th, 2019. |
| 2:36.3 | On Thursday December 19th, the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Donald Trump for |
| 2:41.7 | abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. |
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