What’s next for Hamas in Gaza?
The Take
Al Jazeera
4.7 • 748 Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2024
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh were killed by Israel, leaving the group to debate a successor. And, as Israel’s war on Gaza continues, questions remain about what lies ahead for Gaza’s leadership and its people.
In this episode:
- Diana Buttu (@dianabuttu), Lawyer and Al-Shabaka Board Member
Episode credits:
This episode was produced by Khaled Soltan, Chloe K. Li, and Sarí el-Khalili with Phillip Lanos, Cole Van Miltenburg, Duha Mosaad, Hagir Saleh, and our host, Malika Bilal.
Our sound designer is Alex Roldan. Our video editor is Hisham Abu Salah. Our lead of audience development and engagement is Aya Elmileik. Munera Al Dosari, Vienna Maglio and Adam Abou-Gad are our engagement producers.
Alexandra Locke is the Take’s executive producer. Ney Alvarez is Al Jazeera’s head of audio.
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| 0:00.0 | Al Jazeera Podcasts. |
| 0:07.0 | Today, is Hamas at a crossroads? |
| 0:14.0 | Even without naming somebody, the movement continues because it's a movement for freedom, |
| 0:20.0 | for liberation, for an end to Israel's |
| 0:22.4 | military rule. With two of Hamas's leaders killed by Israel, what's next for Gaza and its leadership? |
| 0:31.2 | I'm Malika Bilal and this is The Take. |
| 0:44.9 | My name is Deanna Butu, and I'm a lawyer who is based in Haifa. |
| 0:47.6 | Diana, welcome back to The Take. |
| 0:49.2 | It's always good to have you on. |
| 1:05.2 | As Israel continues, it's relentless attacks against northern Gaza, recent statements from Western leaders seem to be focused on this elusive peace and not on the people of Gaza. |
| 1:06.8 | They don't acknowledge that. |
| 1:13.0 | Days after Hamas's leader, Yahyasanroar, was killed in combat with Israeli forces. |
| 1:17.7 | The French president, Emmanuel Macron, told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that his killing presents a chance for a new phase in ceasefire negotiations. |
| 1:23.4 | U.S. President Joe Biden saying something similar. |
| 1:26.0 | On Friday, he called the killing a moment of justice |
| 1:28.9 | and said it could be an opportunity to seek a path to peace. |
| 1:34.3 | Deanna, do you see this as an avenue to peace? |
| 1:37.5 | You know, Israel didn't need to kill Yahyazinwar |
| 1:40.9 | in order to stop its assault on Gaza. |
| 1:45.0 | Israel doesn't need to seek permission from anybody to end genocide. |
| 1:50.0 | Genocide is illegal, and it should have been stopped long ago. |
| 1:54.0 | But the problem, of course, is that because the world isn't willing to do anything to stop Netanyahu, |
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