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PFT Live with Mike Florio

What's next for Derek Carr and Aaron Rodgers + DeMeco Ryans introduced as new Texans HC

PFT Live with Mike Florio

Mike Florio

Sports

4.31.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Hour 2: Mike Florio (@ProFootballTalk) and Peter King (@peter_king) discuss latest news in NFL including next moves for Derek Carr and Aaron Rodgers, takeways from DeMeco Ryans introductory press conference and the impact of replay assist on challenges.

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0:00.0

There you throw touchdown passes in Vegas before you've been on fire. Have you ever been that hot in Las Vegas not that hot?

0:09.5

It's probably why I'm going somewhere else.

0:16.7

Oh, no, Derek Car went there. I'm surprised. He went there or stayed there. He's still living in Las Vegas, but he got the invitation to the pro bowl games all three of the

0:27.7

original AFC quarterbacks out for a variety of reasons. Derek Car in and hey, do his credit. It's an opportunity to kind of show up and remind everyone, I'm still here throwing the ball around last night, kind of an unofficial pro day workout for teams that may be interested. Peter, this continues to be just a weird bizarre story because

0:51.7

number one, the Raiders didn't have to give Derek Car a new contract last year. Number two, the way they structured the contract, they included that escape patch that was obvious to me when I first started breaking down the numbers, I mean, it's not hiding in

1:04.7

in some nook or cranny of the deal. It was right there. They have an out if they want to use it and they're going to use it. Apparently, they're going to move on or work out a trade before February 15 when he has $40.4 million

1:17.7

dollars come due in salary between this year and part of next year. And we wait. The clock is ticking loudly, Peter toward February 15. Mike, explain this to me. I have not studied this contract the way you have, but I guess here is my question. Do you actually think there is some team in the NFL that would do two things. Number one, trade a

1:46.7

middle, let's say a third round draft pick to the Raiders for Derek Car, and then also pay him $40 million dollars when he as soon as the deal is agreed to or commit to paying him $40 million. Why would a team do that?

2:06.7

You know, team X out there, pick a team, the jets, Washington, whoever, you know, they they didn't agree to the terms of this contract. Why should they have to live by it? And that to me is the reason. Look, I'm not I'm not positive that Derek Car is going to be great. And you know, you would think you would think that to commit $40 million dollars plus some draft capital.

2:33.7

You know, on day one to a quarterback, you would say if we don't think there's a very good chance this guy could lead us to deep into the playoffs. Why are we doing this?

2:50.7

And that's a great point. We don't know who would make that commitment, but it is a dual commitment that necessarily reflects and I've been explaining it this way.

3:03.7

If a team is willing to guarantee $40.4 million to Derek Car, and it's a base salary of $32 this year, and it's the remainder of fully guaranteed salary in 2024. But if you're willing to do that and give the Raiders what they're looking for.

3:17.7

The reality is if Derek Car was on the open market, that team would do more. If that team is willing to take on that contract and give the Raiders draft pick compensation mid round or higher, then if Derek Car was just a free agent, he could probably do a better deal.

3:34.7

This isn't one of those situations. And I've seen this over the years where a player has a contract that is so favorable to the team that another team trades for the contract.

3:44.7

They want to get the guy before he becomes a free agent. The contract is too good. You don't want to see that contract get ripped up and the player become a free agent. That's just not the case here.

3:54.7

And that's why I've thought all along that when push comes to shove on this Peter, they're not going to be able to trade Derek Car. And that sets aside the reality that all they could do is reach an unofficial deal to trade Derek Car in the middle of March.

4:11.7

A deal on which the other side could back away at any time without consequence. Another team could do to Josh McDaniel's what Josh McDaniel's did to the Colts five years ago with no consequence perfectly within the rules.

4:25.7

Sorry, Mark Davis woke up this morning and I decided, you know, I was listening to Peter King on PFT live back on February 3rd. And he made a pretty good point. Why the hell would I want to guarantee 40.4 million site unseen for Derek Car?

4:40.7

I'm out. Sorry, I know we had an unofficial agreement, but you know, it's not official until the first day of the league year. So I'm out. So that timeline has always been screwy. And I continue to believe that it's pointing toward the Raiders ripping up the contract on Valentine's day and Derek Car becoming a free agent with a five week head start on the open market.

5:06.7

I think so too, Mike. That makes the most sense to me. And look, I'll tell you one other thing that that occurred to me when I was thinking about a team guaranteeing him absolute minimum 40.4 million this year. And then beyond that, obviously, you're not just going to make this a one year deal. I wouldn't think.

5:30.7

So this is the other thing I thought of. What was the storyline last July and August going into the NFL season? Oh my gosh, Derek Car is in Nirvana for quarterbacks. He is in he is with Josh McDaniels.

5:51.7

And this is an unbelievable spot for him, not only is he with Josh McDaniels, but they went out and did exactly what he wanted to what he wanted them to do.

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